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  • Stevilito
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    • Apr 2007
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    Govt bunglers lose 25m names

    THE Metropolitan Police are now leading the hunt for two computer discs lost by the Government containing highly sensitive personal details of HALF the population.

    Chancellor Alistair Darling yesterday stunned MPs as he confessed the data included names, addresses, dates of birth, National Insurance numbers — and even bank or building society details.

    The discs — containing info on EVERY family receiving Child Benefit — went AWOL after taxmen amazingly sent them to another department 250 miles away by unsecure mail.

    Embattled Mr Darling was forced to warn families across the UK to check if bank accounts had been plundered — in case fraudsters had the discs.

    He said a junior official flouted strict rules by dumping the details of 25million Britons in the internal post at HM Revenue and Customs.

    Mr Darling today “apologised unreservedly” for the security lapse.

    The Chancellor said the junior should never have been in a position to post the sensitive information, but said there was currently no evidence to suggest it had fallen into the wrong hands.

    Police were frantically searching for the discs today while Mr Darling has ordered a probe into security procedures at Revenue and Customs, and the Independent Police Complaints Commission is also investigating.

    The Sun can reveal the scandal, one of the worst government security breaches ever, could have been AVOIDED — for the sake of a tenner.

    A senior source at HM Revenue and Customs — whose supremo Paul Gray yesterday quit his £170,000-a-year post over the fiasco — blamed penny-pinching on postage after cuts were ordered last year.

    Out ... Gray yesterday

    Out ... Gray yesterday

    As police continued to scour the postal system, the source scoffed: “Darling is trying to blame the staff for not following procedures. But it’s been common practice to send discs in the internal post for months. Department heads have not been willing to sign for as much registered post since the cutbacks were ordered. The truth is this disaster could have been averted for the sake of £10.

    “That’s all it would have cost to send the package securely by private courier and have its progress tracked and monitored. It’s how packages as important as this used to be sent.”

    The taxmen’s internal “general” mail service, run by courier firm TNT, handles 90 million letters and packages a year.

    The discs vanished en route from the HMRC’s offices in Newcastle-upon-Tyne to London’s National Audit Office.

    DO you know where the discs are? Or are you aware of a similar scandal? Ring our newsdesk now on 0207 782 4100 - don't worry about the cost we'll call you straight back. Or email [email protected]

    Reeling

    TNT stressed last night delivery would have been guaranteed if the discs had been sent using its “consigned service”.

    The data was not encrypted — but is believed to be protected by a password known only to customs and revenue staff.

    Whitehall officials stressed there was no evidence the discs were stolen to order or were in criminal hands. But the bungle is just the latest in a series, which includes:

    A DISC containing personal details on 15,000 Standard Life pension customers going missing in September.

    BANK DETAILS being sent to the wrong 8,000 people.

    A LAPTOP containing financial information on 400 people being nicked from a car.

    Ashen-faced Mr Darling — reeling from criticism of his handling of the Northern Rock bank collapse — drew gasps in the Commons as he said: “I recognise that millions of people across the country will be concerned about what has happened. I deeply regret this and apologise for the anxiety that will undoubtedly be caused. The way in which this has been handled was inexcusable.”

    The scandal emerged just a day after he was forced to admit billions in taxpayers’ cash is at risk in the Northern Rock fiasco. The missing discs even include details of PM Gordon Brown. If they got into the wrong hands they could be used for vast fraud.

    The discs vanished in October. Two weeks later the bungling junior official successfully sent a second batch of data by REGISTERED post — after the National Audit Office moaned the info had not arrived.

    Revenue managers only discovered the first lot was missing 13 days ago. They informed the Chancellor on the morning of Saturday, November 10.

    He told the PM immediately — and a search for the missing package was ordered.

    Last Wednesday — after a frantic hunt lasting four days — Mr Darling called in Scotland Yard and raised the alarm with the independent Information Commissioner.

    The Serious and Organised Crime Agency was brought in. Banks and building societies were alerted.

    The shocking blunder means Labour’s plan to bring in ID cards now looks doomed.

    But Mr Darling sought to reassure the nation that the scheme would go ahead.

    He said: "The advantage of identity cards is using biometric details - you can be surer of the identity of the person who is requesting the information.”

    Opposition parties last night stopped short of demanding the Chancellor’s resignation.

    But they claimed the Government’s credibility was shot to pieces. Shadow Chancellor George Osborne said: “They simply cannot be trusted with people’s personal information."

    Asked whether he would consider resigning over the data loss, Mr Darling said it was the job of Government ministers to face up to difficult situations.




    how ****ing dumb can you get, £10 and it would have made it and would be able to trace it, HOPEFULLY no one will get money taken out of their accounts, if they do the goverment will have some real big explaining to do


    i advise any UK parent who gets child benefits to check their accounts, not sure how many are on here so.


    Gimmie My Paper Bitch
  • boredjedi
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    #2
    Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

    I don't blame them though. £10 = $20 us dollars. Damn, it only costs $2.35 to send registered mail here.
    http://eighteenlightyearsago.ytmnd.com/

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    • Stevilito
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      • Apr 2007
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      #3
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      but its £10, ive not got as much monry as them but i would spend £10 to track all that information, the dumb ****s


      they reckon its still on their grounds, if so why have they not found it yet?


      Gimmie My Paper Bitch

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      • Stevilito
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        • Apr 2007
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        #4
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        well i totally agree, US has an encryption system but yet us ENGLISH fail to use it which is ridiculous


        i hate the english goverment, i think bush is more intellegent then the entire UK goverment and that is sayign something lol



        ENGLISH PEOPLE = FAIL


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        • M_B
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          • Apr 2007
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          #5
          Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

          Originally posted by boredjedi
          I don't blame them though. £10 = $20 us dollars. Damn, it only costs $2.35 to send registered mail here.
          ACTUALLY!
          10.00 GBP = 20.6309 USD

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          • LoveTHYconan
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            • Apr 2007
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            #6
            Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

            Originally posted by CJVercetti
            Lol, English police.
            youtube.com/LTCVIDEOS

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            • boredjedi
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              #7
              Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

              Originally posted by M_B
              Originally posted by boredjedi
              I don't blame them though. £10 = $20 us dollars. Damn, it only costs $2.35 to send registered mail here.
              ACTUALLY!
              10.00 GBP = 20.6309 USD

              Oh god we got ourselves a nit picker! :p

              http://eighteenlightyearsago.ytmnd.com/

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              • ForGreatJustin
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                #8
                Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

                Originally posted by LoveTHYconan
                Originally posted by CJVercetti
                Lol, English police.

                LOL! Great movie

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                • DawnStar
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                  #9
                  Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

                  Originally posted by ForGreatJustin
                  Originally posted by LoveTHYconan
                  Originally posted by CJVercetti
                  Lol, English police.

                  LOL! Great movie
                  Yar!

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                  • suburbanmum
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                    • Apr 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

                    Registered post would only have cost them about £4, they're saying a courier service would have been a tenner.

                    Apparently they've now admitted that the password for the 2 discs was in the same envelope. Fantastic!

                    Excuse me while I just go and draw all my money out (yeah, about all £2.50 of it) and put it under my mattress.

                    These are the same people who lost my marriage certificate for me last year - they insisted they had to have the original in order to change my name, I sent it to them via registered post, they confirmed in writing that they had received it - and then lost it, without it having even left their building. Luckily they found it again 6 weeks later and posted it back (unregistered!) - I got married in Barbados and trying to get replacement documents from them is apparently a huge nightmare. So they redeemed themselves eventually but even so.
                    Magnús Scheving IS God.
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                    • Mosheddy
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                      #11
                      Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

                      if anyone as wondering where i've been the last few weeks, its because of this. my mums account information was on that list. she gets benefit for m two younger sisters. everything in her account (around 9000) has disappeared. she has nothing to pay the our taxes and since everything linked to the british government is compartmentalised and run by individual counsils, it takes months for shitstorms like this to get sorted out. our home was reposessed last tuesday and my mum took my sister and is staying with her mother. she got annoyed with me for being unemployed and unable to help her that i had to sleep rough on wednesday night in -2 temperatures. fortunately im staying with a close friend atm and using my last 10 squid at an internets cafe listening to Ne-Ni-Ge de Reset! and weeping silently to myself. I'm going to have to get a fuking job now *facepalm*
                      PLEASE KNOCK I'M TAKING A POWER NAP

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                      • CmdrLuke
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                        I'm so sorry for you Mosheddy, I hope things work out. If that happened to my family we would have been screwed, current situation as is.
                        dont drink whats under the sink

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                        • moomoo
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                          #13
                          Re: Govt bunglers lose 25m names

                          Originally posted by Stevilito
                          Chancellor Alistair Darling
                          Darling? Funny name for a guy isn't it? Last person I called darling was pregnant twenty seconds later!
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                          • Stevilito
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                            #14
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                            mosheddy, you wanna get onto the goverment somehow, they said if anyones money goes missing they will repay them abck, but they never said how long


                            sorry mo, if the goverment had let us know a month before then maybe your case could have been avoided, contact the sun, they will fight for ya for definate http://www.thesun.co.uk they was campainging about it the other day, so let them know and im sure they willl try their best to sort ya out


                            ONCE AGAIN ANY OTHER PARENTS CHECK YA ACCOUNT TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, CHECK IT EVERY OTHER DAY OR SO


                            Gimmie My Paper Bitch

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                            • AgentKJ
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                              I'm getting my mum to keep checking her account.
                              If her money is lost, then we're in shit, really, cos the benefits she gets for me and her disibility isn't that much, and right now we are struggling cos of my dad.
                              But yeah, I'm seriously hoping that her money's safe and I'm so sorry to those that have had money going missing, like mosheddy. :(
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