Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

[boredjedi]

Sorry to say this movie plain and simply stunk. A glimmer of hope emerged towards the end which lasted about 15 minutes but then fell apart again. Blame Disney? Blame Tim Burton? I dunno but either Tim Burton has lost his edge or too much Disney meddling around with it.

Top name director, top name actors don't make a good movie. There just wasn't any chemistry between the whole lot of them. Very painful to watch them in this movie. They have the stench of Disney's one dimensional characterization written all over them. I mean seriously coked up film makers from the 80's could have done a better job.

The movie does have lots of eye candy I'll grant you that but there were parts all I could think of was Lord Of The Rings especially those 15 minutes I mentioned earlier. Just a minor distraction for me though overall the most entertaining part of that whole movie.

With that said, bad mistake for them not to go the route of American Mcgee's Alice. Bring it on you fools just bring it on and stop effing around already.


No seriously I'd rather watch these two clips over and over again for an 1 hour and 45 minutes

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[boredjedi]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

Additional:

I was curious about who the screenwriter for this Alice was since that could break a movie too. Linda Woolverton. I looked at her imdb page and not much credit to her list who the hell picked her for this I'll never know. Smells like another Disney maneuver to me. I guess it's not how good you are but who you know and she must know someone high up somewhere to have landed this job.

To give you an example she wrote 2 episodes for EWOKS back in 1986. That should tell you a thing or two.

[StingX]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

I will post a rather lengthy eh....review of sorts I guess tomorrow when it isn't 1 in the morning.

[Buzz]

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I have always hoped that I was be spared from any Disney discussions in this area...anyway...I always thought that when putting on the 3D glasses the brain automatically shuts down ... you think too much in this type of popcorn cinema...stare into the colors and enjoy...

[StingX]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

First and foremost...

I will be spoiling basically everything here

So since hearing of the production of this movie a few years ago, I have been going up and down in my expectations for the film. Luckily, after hearing that it was more of a ehm... "sequel" than a remake, my expectations were on a low point.

I guess I will jump off here - If they wanted to make it a sequel, they should have made it a sequel. I don't know what all this "Are you the real Alice?" crap was. Why did they do that? With all that forgetting crap they spent half the movie rehashing.

Anyway...the story arch was that Alice had returned to Wonderland (or as they call it "Underland" which is lame) years later. The Red Queen (I'll get in to this mess later) had retaken the throne from the White Queen, and had destroyed much of Wonderland via her Jabberwocky. Alice is the prophesied slayer of the Jabberwock and must fulfill her destiny to restore Wonderland.

That sounds way cooler than it actually was. As I said, half the story was a rehash, and the other half was...meh. The ending was a bit weak in my opinion. The fight with the Jabberwocky was just so blah. It got better when the whole chess board was fighting, but even so - it cut away from them and returned to Alice's blah battle. But I'm done bitching about the plot for now - my real issue was with the characters.

Alice - The forgetting thing was lame as forementioned, and her acting was sort of stale. She ranged from slightly amused to slightly confused. But I guess it would have been worse...

Mad Hatter - Too much insanity, too little madness. There's a difference. They also didn't play with time enough.

Red Queen - Alrght so what the **** was this? The Red Queen was portrayed to be the Queen of Hearts! But they are two different characters. What the ****ing ****? From what I can recall, or atleast from what I think I can recall, the Red Queen and the White Queen are chessboard opposites, and the Queen of Hearts is the queen of Wonderland. Big difference. FAIL

White Queen - Fair enough.

The Knave of Hearts - Fair enough.

Tweedledee/Dum - Not wacky enough, and too plain.

Cheshire Cat - I feel like he wasn't neutral and enigmatic enough. But other than that I guess he was OK except I was sorta waiting for him to ask for a cheezburger.

The Caterpillar - Needed to be bigger And did he have a name or something?

Dormouse - Needs less aggression.

March Hare - Well done. Grats.

The Jabberwocky - I felt like he came off as too beastly. He really needed more lines. Way more lines. Way, way more.

That really takes care of all the major characters

Overall I'd say the movie was more confusing than anything else. I, like Boredjedi, will be quietly waiting for American Mcgee's. Tim Burton ain't got shit on him.

[boredjedi]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

Yeah basically all the above. Was keeping it as generic as I could without adding spoilers though in case someone has it seen it yet and they may like this movie for some reason.

We need a spoiler tag on this board :)

[StingX]

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Oh and one more thing - I could have SWORN that I saw the Mock Turtle in a trailer for this.

[supernaturalforever]

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My main worry was about Alice being older. Her age is significant not only to her nature but also because Carroll wrote the book for a young girl. It bugged me that they'd make her older just to reach a wider audience.

Luckily older Alice didn't lose her muchness in the aging process. I found myself adoring this Alice and I enjoyed her character arc.

[Deep4t]

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I kinda hyped this film cause... well the 'Almost Alice CD' is awesome and, the film did look good tbh.

but, it wasn't HORRIBLE, it just built up and up and up to this big finale. And the finale was awful.
which, makes the rest of the film pointless, if the build up had paid off it would have been alright but.. it didn't.

oh and just noticed this topic is rather old... meh

[StingX]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

You ready, BJ? Got that shit preordered.

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[boredjedi]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

You ready, BJ? Got that shit preordered.

What a year. First this and now Duke Nukem' Forever being released on June 17th been waiting like 15 years for that one.

[StingX]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

Balls of steeeeeel.

[boredjedi]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

Balls of steeeeeel.

[Lazycus]

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Har har, those were the days...

[StingX]

Re: Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

**** me do Alice and Duke seriously release on the same day? I'm going to be a busy boy..