Maths Discussion (Split from LazyTown Game topic)

[nindanjoe]

Just splitting off the Math discussion from the LazyTown Game topic created by Deep4t here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2603

The date for this post will be different due to certain methods I was testing out (actual date is 10 April 2010, Pacific time). Please continue the Math discussion here. :)

[Lily_Kaelar]

Test Topic Split Again

I was going to take a game design class next year, but it has Algebra II as a prerequisite and I'm currently failing it, so...yeah. Can't stand math, don't want to do an unrequired math course.

I picked these instead:

Drama I (semester)
Forensic Science (year)
Creative Writing (semester)
Statistics (year)
AP English IV (year)
Physics (year)
Chinese III (year)
Fundamentals of Art (Year)

And if they let me, I'll cut one of those out and take Spanish I to make up for my failed Russian credit freshman year... >.<

Really, I'm great at all of my classes except math. I just had trouble with some Russian verbs and endings, and gave up. I was fine with pronunciation and sentence structure for the most part.

Anyway, back to topic.

Love the idea for a game.

Stingy--make us a LazyTown zombie game.

[nindanjoe]

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Awesome pixel graphics! :)

To Lily_Kaelar: I love math! Or at least the concept of it. It's great how it can explain things and help solve problems. Like in Physics! Any reason you don't like it? Maybe I can convince you that math is great! :)

[sportagirl_10.5]

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Statistics (year)

You should probably go kill yourself now.

It's the only bit of Maths I hate.

[LazyTownWW]

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Awesome pixel graphics! :)

To Lily_Kaelar: I love math! Or at least the concept of it. It's great how it can explain things and help solve problems. Like in Physics! Any reason you don't like it? Maybe I can convince you that math is great! :)

I hate math, it's somethnig that I feel no connection with whatsoever...I can't learn it, I find it difficult...
And to expand on this, I find it a cold human invention, it has no soul, it reduces everything to a theory.
I think it has been and still is esential for the development of humanity...but I just can't stand it...I prefere more humanistic sciences.

[StingX]

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And to expand on this, I find it a cold human invention, it has no soul, it reduces everything to a theory.

Interesting point of view. Never considered it to be like that.

[LazyTownWW]

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And to expand on this, I find it a cold human invention, it has no soul, it reduces everything to a theory.

Interesting point of view. Never considered it to be like that.

Your right, let me rephrase.
I think history, or geography, or any form of art, or theology, or psichology, are much more fascinating then math. calculations make me sick.
Besides, all the math freaks I know are robots.

[Glanni's Girl]

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I hate math/s with every fibre of my being, but brain training is helping to ease the hate.

That game looks friggin awesome! Can't wait to see your Robbie and Sportacus!

[Lily_Kaelar]

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I love math! Or at least the concept of it. It's great how it can explain things and help solve problems. Like in Physics! Any reason you don't like it? Maybe I can convince you that math is great! :)

I've failed it every year except freshman year, when I just barely passed Algebra with a 61 for the year. But it was my fault for being lazy and missing so many days. The teacher often wrote the steps and explained things, and the students were very helpful too.

Last year, with Geometry, it was the same thing, except I failed and took it again (passed with a 73) in summer school. I missed a lot of days, and didn't bother to get help even though I could have tons of it from everyone.

This year, it's Algebra II, and there is little help available. The teacher doesn't bother to write out the steps or explain things--she goes so fast that often, everyone has to share notes in order to get what she's saying. And if you miss one day, you're screwed for the year because she uses these skills in many units. I've only missed a few days, but what I did miss happened to be skills that I really needed. The girls in class don't like me, except for my deskmate who doesn't care, and my friend Katie, who doesn't get it either and gets help from her girlfriend Stacy, who can´t help me because my problems go back too far.
My friend Elena takes Pre-Calculus and tutors me when she's available, but she's always absent.

I don't like math because I don't understand it and the teacher I have now makes it hard to like math. If someone could tutor me on a regular basis, I would be fine. (We're doing imaginary numbers and complex numbers now, by the way).

Physics happens to be a required course and since I got lazy and didn't want it this year, I have it next year. The teacher happens to be the club adviser person for my school's environmental club, which I am president of, so we're good friends and he can probably help me a lot. He's a nice guy.

[quote=sportagirl_10.5]

Statistics (year)

You should probably go kill yourself now. It's the only bit of Maths I hate.[/quote:0bdb7]

I've heard good things about it, like how it is soooo much easier than PreCalc, which would be my other alternative. I tend to be pretty good at probability and percentages and things like this.

And agreed, LazyTownWW.

Hmmm anyone good at Algebra II...?

[sportagirl_10.5]

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[quote=Lily_Kaelar]

I love math! Or at least the concept of it. It's great how it can explain things and help solve problems. Like in Physics! Any reason you don't like it? Maybe I can convince you that math is great! :)

I've failed it every year except freshman year, when I just barely passed Algebra with a 61 for the year. But it was my fault for being lazy and missing so many days. The teacher often wrote the steps and explained things, and the students were very helpful too.

Last year, with Geometry, it was the same thing, except I failed and took it again (passed with a 73) in summer school. I missed a lot of days, and didn't bother to get help even though I could have tons of it from everyone.

This year, it's Algebra II, and there is little help available. The teacher doesn't bother to write out the steps or explain things--she goes so fast that often, everyone has to share notes in order to get what she's saying. And if you miss one day, you're screwed for the year because she uses these skills in many units. I've only missed a few days, but what I did miss happened to be skills that I really needed. The girls in class don't like me, except for my deskmate who doesn't care, and my friend Katie, who doesn't get it either and gets help from her girlfriend Stacy, who can´t help me because my problems go back too far.
My friend Elena takes Pre-Calculus and tutors me when she's available, but she's always absent.

I don't like math because I don't understand it and the teacher I have now makes it hard to like math. If someone could tutor me on a regular basis, I would be fine. (We're doing imaginary numbers and complex numbers now, by the way).

Physics happens to be a required course and since I got lazy and didn't want it this year, I have it next year. The teacher happens to be the club adviser person for my school's environmental club, which I am president of, so we're good friends and he can probably help me a lot. He's a nice guy.

[quote="sportagirl_10.5":17628]

Statistics (year)

You should probably go kill yourself now. It's the only bit of Maths I hate.[/quote:17628]

I've heard good things about it, like how it is soooo much easier than PreCalc, which would be my other alternative. I tend to be pretty good at probability and percentages and things like this.

And agreed, LazyTownWW.

Hmmm anyone good at Algebra II...?[/quote:17628]
Well over here in the UK I've been doing A level Maths and last year I did AS level Further Maths. In normal Maths so far I have 99% in Core 1, Core 2 and Mechanics 1. It's just Decision 1 that ruined my continuity with 81%, but Decision Maths is the weirdest Maths ever. In Further Maths last year, I did Stats 1 and Stats 2, and got 81% and 79% because Stats is just so boring and made me want to kill myself. The Further Pure 1 paper was a lot harder, but somehow I got 90%...

Physics is cool. We do about quarks and stuff. :) My teacher, called "The Lovely Debbie" made plasticine quarks with faces. We did an experiment on radioactive half lifes with M&Ms and she likes LazyTown!

[Glanni's Girl]

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she likes LazyTown!

Then she definately deserves the name "The Lovely Debbie"

[nindanjoe]

Re: Maths Discussion (Split from LazyTown Game topic)

Your right, let me rephrase.
I think history, or geography, or any form of art, or theology, or psichology, are much more fascinating then math. calculations make me sick.
Besides, all the math freaks I know are robots.

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

I'm sorry you feel that way about math. Like with Lily_Kaelar, schools don't teach the good parts of math and how it can be used; they also don't spend a lot of time on math concepts, definately not cool! I didn't really like math until I started taking Physics. :) Lily, Kaelar, I hope you find people that will help you in math since it can really be a great thing. The teachers really should be the ones to show you that. Don't tell the teachers I said that, they might start throwing books at me!

I think of math as a tool to help explain or figure things out. I'll use some of the examples of the subjects you gave, if you don't mind. :) Math calculations can be considered tedious. In Psychology, we look to understand the brain more, and how it operates. One way is to use research studies. Lots of observations are done, and data is taken down. That can be quite tedious, but at the end of the study, after interpreting all the data, you will get some kind of answer. Like in math. :)

Using the tool comparison again, I'll take painting with a brush, or making drawings with pencils, pens, and other arts utensils. By itself, the brush is a cold, lifeless thing. All it does it lay there, doing nothing. But take it in your hand, with a little paint, you can create something. The brush is a tool that will allow you to create something. Math is similar to that. You can compare it to make buildings that are considered art. With certain calculations, Math can be used to make the building both safe to live in, and something beautiful to look at.

I was thinking of making more Math comparisons to History and Geography, but I tend to go on and on. So I'll stop there. :)

This episode of Horizon might interest people who don't like Math. Alan Davies isn't great at Math, but you can see his journey through different Math concepts. The program is about 55 minutes long, but someone has uploaded it to YouTube, here's the first part:

Horizon: Alan and Marcus Go Forth and Multiply - 1/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cu4_Vd6TTw

You can view the rest of the episode there too, the upper right section of the video list should have the next segment.

[Lily_Kaelar]

Re: Maths Discussion (Split from LazyTown Game topic)

Lily, Kaelar, I hope you find people that will help you in math since it can really be a great thing. The teachers really should be the ones to show you that. Don't tell the teachers I said that, they might start throwing books at me!

Thanks but I don't think I'll ever be very good at it...

What, will they throw the books three thousand miles just to try to hit you? Dunno how they could possibly manage that lol

I was thinking of making more Math comparisons to History and Geography, but I tend to go on and on. So I'll stop there. :)

Aww but I enjoyed your comparisons and analogies! they were very nice. :)

Horizon: Alan and Marcus Go Forth and Multiply - 1/6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cu4_Vd6TTw

I started watching but I'll finish later. Lots of work to do for English, and I waited til the last minute to start...=(

[SportaKandy]

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[LazyTownWW]

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LOL conseidering how much of a math newb and hater I am, it's a miracle I passed my high-school-ending math exam last summer with a pretty good grade...actualy, I have reasone to belive it was divine intervention.