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  • possessor
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    My view of AI (5)

    https://www.abc.net.au/btn/classroom...e-ai/103961208

    Watched this video in class. Can absolutely not wrap my head around the fact AI is being used in scripts. It's utterly disgraceful and dumb to the art of literature...
  • chuft
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    And the latest evil from Google.


    Google Plans to Roll Out Its A.I. Chatbot to Children Under 13


    and lest we forget what happened last year



    Can A.I. Be Blamed for a Teen’s Suicide?

    The mother of a 14-year-old Florida boy says he became obsessed with a chatbot on Character.AI before his death.


    Both of these articles are pretty chilling. The second one though was a real eye opener as to what's already going on out there with kids using AI as "friends" instead of humans.

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    • BRBFBI
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      chuft In regards to the second article, I’m careful to not read too far into anecdotes. I see it a lot with self-driving cars. Something like 30,000 people die in car accidents in the US every year and most will never make the news unless something spectacular happened, but if a self-driving car gets stuck in wet concrete you’d better believe it will be on the front-page. I need to see the numbers (incidents per mile driven or something) to make an informed judgement. Same thing here. The suicide rate for males in the US is a little over 22/100,000 (a lot). If one of those could possibly be tied to an AI chatbot that doesn’t tell me very much except to make me awareof a potential vector of harm.

      I thought this part was funny: The mother’s lawyer used to be an asbestos injury lawyer before pivoting to tech law. When asked about AI chatbots he said “to me, it’s like if you’re releasing asbestos fibers in the steets.” LOL. Real creative guy.

      As far as the first article—I wish we could go back to when the internet was for adults.

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      • chuft
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        Character.AI, which was started by two former Google A.I. researchers, is the market leader in A.I. companionship. More than 20 million people use its service, which it has described as a platform for “superintelligent chat bots that hear you, understand you, and remember you.”

        Given most of their users seem to be children, I find this very disturbing.

        As far as suicide rates - keep in mind chatbots are very new. Give it time for statistics to begin to appear. The effects of children having fake friends instead of real ones may take some time to make themselves felt.
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        • BRBFBI
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          I’m just saying you can’t know without data and that article is only a single number. It could turn out that chat bots are beneficial to mental health as some of the designers claim in that article.

          But I agree that that’s extremely unlikely. I see it as another negative agent in the “loneliness epidemic.” Children, especially in the US, have no autonomy. They’re told it’s dangerous to go outside and are accompanied by parents everywhere they go to an absurdly old age. The internet gave them something to replace the lost real life connections with, and AI chatbots will be the next evolution of that isolation enabling technology.

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          • LazyPooky
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            I hope Google has a better AI chatbot than Meta's Facebook because their AI chatbots engage in sexually explicit chats with minors, according to The Wall Street Journal .

            Here on archive: https://archive.is/TtSUb

            deadline.com/2025/04/instagram-facebook-whatsapp-chatbots-john-cena-kristen-bell-sexually-explicit-1236378799
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            • possessor
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              Originally posted by LazyPooky
              I hope Google has a better AI chatbot than Meta's Facebook because their AI chatbots engage in sexually explicit chats with minors, according to The Wall Street Journal .

              https://deadline.com/2025/04/instagr...it-1236378799/
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              • BRBFBI
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                Originally posted by possessor

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                ^ Possessor realizing his chats with the Meta AI weren't as innocent as he thought.

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                • possessor
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                  Originally posted by BRBFBI

                  ^ Possessor realizing his chats with the Meta AI weren't as innocent as he thought.

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                  lol I don't use Meta. I distance myself from suckerberg.

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                  • BRBFBI
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                    Good call.

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                    • boredjedi
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                      I did not see this one coming

                      After an Arizona man was shot, an AI video of him addresses his killer in court

                      For two years, Stacey Wales kept a running list of everything she would say at the sentencing hearing for the man who killed her brother in a road rage incident in Chandler, Ariz.

                      But when she finally sat down to write her statement, Wales was stuck. She struggled to find the right words, but one voice was clear: her brother's.

                      "I couldn't help hear his voice in my head of what he would say," Wales told NPR.

                      That's when the idea came to her: to use artificial intelligence to generate a video of how her late brother, Christopher Pelkey, would address the courtroom and specifically the man who fatally shot him at a red light in 2021.

                      On Thursday, Wales stood before the court and played the video — in what AI experts say is likely the first time the technology has been used in the U.S. to create an impact statement read by an AI rendering of the deceased victim.


                      https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/g-s1-...-murder-victim

                      This is rather a bad precedent.
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                      • chuft
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                        Finally an intelligent pope.


                        Less than a week into the role, Leo XIV has publicly highlighted his concerns about the rapidly advancing technology. In his inaugural address to the College of Cardinals, he said the church would address the risks that artificial intelligence poses to “human dignity, justice and labor.” And in his first speech to journalists, he cited the “immense potential” of A.I. while warning that it requires responsibility “to ensure that it can be used for the good of all.”

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/w...elligence.html


                        Religion may be the only force capable of stopping this madness.


                        Meanwhile, welcome to school, where not just the students, but the professors use AI to cheat.


                        Last fall, Marie, 22, wrote a three-page essay for an online anthropology course at Southern New Hampshire University. She looked for her grade on the school’s online platform, and was happy to have received an A. But in a section for comments, her professor had accidentally posted a back-and-forth with ChatGPT. It included the grading rubric the professor had asked the chatbot to use and a request for some “really nice feedback” to give Marie.
                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/t...smid=url-share


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                        • possessor
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                          no point saying this because you've ignored my posts, but my teacher sometimes encourages using ai.. this is out of hand

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                          • BRBFBI
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                            Originally posted by boredjedi
                            I did not see this one coming

                            https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/g-s1-...-murder-victim

                            This is rather a bad precedent.
                            I can't believe that was admissible in court. New technologies are always exciting because, until the rules and precedent are worked out, it's the wild west; anything goes. That being said, I found that article disquieting


                            Originally posted by chuft
                            Meanwhile, welcome to school, where not just the students, but the professors use AI to cheat.

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/14/t...smid=url-share
                            I would be perfectly happy if AI didn't exist, but since it does lets look at some use cases. From the linked NYT article:
                            [Dr. Kwaramba] uses it, for example, to generate data sets for fictional chain stores, which students use in an exercise to understand various statistical concepts.

                            “I see it as the age of the calculator on steroids,” Dr. Kwaramba said.

                            Dr. Kwaramba said he now had more time for student office hours.
                            I can't think of an argument against leveraging AI to automate busywork like generating fictional datasets for training. On the other hand:

                            [...]her professor had accidentally posted a back-and-forth with ChatGPT. It included the grading rubric the professor had asked the chatbot to use and a request for some “really nice feedback” to give Marie.
                            That is weirdly upsetting. If I got "really nice" feedback from anyone I would be crushed to learn it was actually a robot miming niceness.

                            It's not just AI being used in an emotional way that I bothers me; I can envision AI therapist bots which could potentially improve patient mental health. I think what bothers me is AI masquerading as human, as in BJ's article of the murder victim being "brought to life" by AI to make an emotional appeal, and as in chuft's article of AI praising a student who thought she was talking to her professor.


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                            • chuft
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                              As I have said before, if AI had no benefits, no one would use it. It's not a question of if it has benefits - it's a question of the costs.


                              The way they worded this sentence was perhaps too subtle, in a Lovecraftian "the horror comes when you realize the implications" sort of way, so I will rephrase it for clarity.

                              "It included the grading rubric the professor had asked the chatbot to use"

                              should be

                              "He gave instructions to the chatbot on HOW TO GRADE HER PAPER."
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