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[boredjedi]

I never once security updated my Windows 10 and it worked fine and swell

It's not so much about stability. It's about holes in the coding that is exploitable by the real talented hackers
that poke and prod to find those holes and MS closing up those holes. Usually when those patches are made available,
some hackers have already exploited those holes and Microsoft is being reactive in closing them. The prodding and
poking is never ending.

Linux had remained safe because it was very niche and not a widespread used OS it wasn't worth the hackers time.
But now that it has become more relevant, the hackers are on it.

[boredjedi]

The top list "Quality Updates" is where you'll find the fixes for those coding holes and of course any stability fixes as well.

The bottom list "Definition Updates" is for the built in MS Antivirus program.

[boredjedi]

This time almost 17 hours without a blue screen. Gunna shut it down anyway.
For the rest of the night.

[possessor]

It's not so much about stability. It's about holes in the coding that is exploitable by the real talented hackers
that poke and prod to find those holes and MS closing up those holes. Usually when those patches are made available,
some hackers have already exploited those holes and Microsoft is being reactive in closing them. The prodding and
poking is never ending.

Linux had remained safe because it was very niche and not a widespread used OS it wasn't worth the hackers time.
But now that it has become more relevant, the hackers are on it.

Like Pooky said, with good anti-virus software those holes can be closed and security updates are a waste of time

[moomoo]

Nah if there are low level vulnerabilities in the operating system antivirus may not be able to close those.

Edit: See the answers on this SuperUser question: Do I still need to update Windows if I have an antivirus?

[possessor]

first of all that guy's running windows xp. obviously he's gonna have a vulnerable system.

second of all, the problems mentioned can only happen if you're not careful with what you download

[chuft]

The hell. Someone help me understand this board.

I was reading some older posts on v12 of the BIOS (which apparently is bad, and you can't roll it back) and was wondering about v13. So I tried to go to the end of the thread and read backwards from there.

So I start here



https://www.overclock.net/threads/gi...11478/page-580

and hit the Next button (have also tried the 610 button)

and end up here





https://www.overclock.net/threads/gi...ge-192#replies

LOL WTF is going on here.

[chuft]

Seems odd I never hear anyone talking about the battery issue when discussing changing your BIOS settings for Win11. If you turn on Intel PTT, and Trusted Device/TPM, and UEFI boot only no legacy/CSM...are these settings all lost if your battery is dead and your comp is off? We have hurricanes here so yes it's not unknown for my comp to be unplugged. If the new BIOS settings were lost after going to Win11 it wouldn't be able to boot? I've never once heard anyone talk about that. Wondering if I need to change the battery before starting all this Win11 crap.

Is there any way to tell if your battery is kaput? Built this in 2019.

Of course Trump picks the "Win10 dies" year to make things from China cost 2.5 as much as before, when everyone is building new comps. Otherwise I'd be tempted to just build a new comp for Win11 and if Win11 sucked, move to Linux instead.

Given how well my current comp works, it's annoying to have MS forcing these "upgrades". If games all ran on MacOS I'd just buy a Mac at this point. Need ScreenConnect for work but apparently that works on Mac, Linux and Windows so my home machine platform should not matter.

[chuft]

Hmmm. Is this good or bad lol.

[chuft]

Meanwhile someone is saying this lol

[LazyPooky]

The CMOS battery of my NAS is empty after I kept it unplugged for a few years. It doesn't remember the date and settings, and warns me every time I turn the NAS on once a year. I think when you keep your computer on the electricity the CMOS is getting it's power from there, and switching off the battery, that's why it never gets empty when you use your computer. Battery is more like a backup power.

[boredjedi]

Seems odd I never hear anyone talking about the battery issue when discussing changing your BIOS settings for Win11. If you turn on Intel PTT, and Trusted Device/TPM, and UEFI boot only no legacy/CSM...are these settings all lost if your battery is dead and your comp is off? We have hurricanes here so yes it's not unknown for my comp to be unplugged. If the new BIOS settings were lost after going to Win11 it wouldn't be able to boot? I've never once heard anyone talk about that. Wondering if I need to change the battery before starting all this Win11 crap.

Is there any way to tell if your battery is kaput? Built this in 2019.

Yeah you never do. Well to the extent it's an issue in constant discussion. And you would think the motherboard manufacturers
would put in a battery sensor. From what've I read, only really high end or custom boards might contain that in general.

But usually the only way to tell if your cmos battery is on the way out is by the motherboard not maintaining the date and time.
The battery has enough juice left to keep the other cmos settings intact but not enough to run the clock properly

[boredjedi]

Hmmm. Is this good or bad lol.

If that's the correct batter voltage, looks good to me.

Oh and funny I have just reinstalled Hwinfo64.

[chuft]

Well what is your battery voltage in HWInfo? And how old is the battery?

[boredjedi]

The CMOS battery of my NAS is empty after I kept it unplugged for a few years. It doesn't remember the date and settings, and warns me every time I turn the NAS on once a year. I think when you keep your computer on the electricity the CMOS is getting it's power from there, and switching off the battery, that's why it never gets empty when you use your computer. Battery is more like a backup power.

You might have been on the right track about the memory issue with my computer.
But not in bad memory sticks. Apparently, some of these motherboard manufacturers
are a bit too frugal in setting automatic voltages. In MSI's case, not enough voltage
is given to the memory. Under 1 volt. Should be hard set to 1.1 or 1.2 to make ram more stable.
I have done that in the bios setting CPU NB/SoC to override and then typing in 1.1 at first and will see what happens.
Hence why I also reinstalled the HwInfo64 to monitor voltages and temps.

I got two blue screen crashes this morning. Both with the usual Memory Management as the cause.
Prompting me to give even a more deeper dive into this issue.