A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

[Sportscandy]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I think it is known: https://soundcloud.com/user-130211083/47a

I could see why playing Stephanie a few years later doesn't feel quite as... natural? as it first was. She was a young girl in an exciting new environment playing a young girl in an exciting new environment. Obviously she could not stay that way forever. She still did a good job in season 2, but it feels like keeping her as Stephanie for more seasons would have been too much.

The Stephanie played by Chloe obviously feels different from the season 1 character, but it's not out of character either (imo). What I liked from the character initially is still there, she's basically just a sweet girl that likes to dance, sing and play.

[UnLearnEd]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I disagree with Juli that her character was always happy. I can think of situations where she was sad, frusturated, scared and even introverted. Believe it is accurate to say she was consistently an optimist.

[Aimee]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I honestly find many of the season 3 and 4 episodes way more enjoyable than the earlier ones.
Especially season 4. I can't even decide which of those are my favorites, because they are all so incredibly great.
I really enjoy Chloe as well and I absolutely can't understand the big negativity towards her. But worst of all; y'all think season 3/4 songs aren't as good?
Jesus. I seriously think compared to season 3/4 songs, season 1/2 songs are really lame. Like I couldn't listen to a season 1/2 song
for 2 days without getting sick of it, while season 3/4 songs get me hooked for months without losing their grace. That's a BIG point where they improved in my opinion.

Little things bothering me are the instruction parts in s3 songs, Trixie's puppeteer/voice change and the weird mask Stephanie puts on from time to time. But like, that's really it.

(I grew up with seasons 1 and 2 as well)

[StingX]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

Most of the episodes in S3 and 4 are still about silly characters in a silly town interacting with each other though.

Sure there are some over-the-top time-travel and moon plots, but there are also plots about them starting up mini-museums or going to medieval festivals, or having a "secret-friend day" or inviting the town over for Ziggy's birthday party.

Sure the big over-the-top ones stand out, but it is still mostly about silly characters in a silly town.

Of course, my claim isn't universally true. There are some great examples of parts in seasons 3 and 4 that were great. In "The First Day of Summer" for example, it was great to see the creative team explore the dynamic of Robbie Rotten being alone in LazyTown. The episode is very character-centric because of that.

But it isn't necessarily about all of the big plots either, it's more granular things as well. Sportacus can no longer jump down from his airship, he has to jump down and have his little backpack thing morph into a hang glider. Stephanie can no longer help her friends by being level-headed and ethical, she has to put on a mask and become a pseudo-Sportacus. It's not good enough that Sportacus gets tricked by a trap door anymore, now the trap door has to lead to a giant machine that is going to crush him to death. I feel like there was an overemphasis on making things more dramatic, or increasing the "coolness" factor of things, and other aspects of the show suffered because of it.

[Fox]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I can think of situations where she was sad, frusturated, scared and even introverted.

Exactly!
Those emotions made her feel human, and not some kind of robot clone, always running in fifth gear on the happy machine...

[VenomPacifier]

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But it isn't necessarily about all of the big plots either, it's more granular things as well. Sportacus can no longer jump down from his airship, he has to jump down and have his little backpack thing morph into a hang glider. Stephanie can no longer help her friends by being level-headed and ethical, she has to put on a mask and become a pseudo-Sportacus. It's not good enough that Sportacus gets tricked by a trap door anymore, now the trap door has to lead to a giant machine that is going to crush him to death. I feel like there was an overemphasis on making things more dramatic, or increasing the "coolness" factor of things, and other aspects of the show suffered because of it.

I agree with this completely. The Chloe seasons are too different in that aspect.

[Sportscandy]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

Of course, my claim isn't universally true. There are some great examples of parts in seasons 3 and 4 that were great. In "The First Day of Summer" for example, it was great to see the creative team explore the dynamic of Robbie Rotten being alone in LazyTown. The episode is very character-centric because of that.

But it isn't necessarily about all of the big plots either, it's more granular things as well. Sportacus can no longer jump down from his airship, he has to jump down and have his little backpack thing morph into a hang glider. Stephanie can no longer help her friends by being level-headed and ethical, she has to put on a mask and become a pseudo-Sportacus. It's not good enough that Sportacus gets tricked by a trap door anymore, now the trap door has to lead to a giant machine that is going to crush him to death. I feel like there was an overemphasis on making things more dramatic, or increasing the "coolness" factor of things, and other aspects of the show suffered because of it.

Good observations... It's true that they tried to make everything a bit bigger/cooler/more dramatic. It's an escalation that was not really necessary.

[Spongey445]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

Of course, my claim isn't universally true. There are some great examples of parts in seasons 3 and 4 that were great. In "The First Day of Summer" for example, it was great to see the creative team explore the dynamic of Robbie Rotten being alone in LazyTown. The episode is very character-centric because of that.

But it isn't necessarily about all of the big plots either, it's more granular things as well. Sportacus can no longer jump down from his airship, he has to jump down and have his little backpack thing morph into a hang glider. Stephanie can no longer help her friends by being level-headed and ethical, she has to put on a mask and become a pseudo-Sportacus. It's not good enough that Sportacus gets tricked by a trap door anymore, now the trap door has to lead to a giant machine that is going to crush him to death. I feel like there was an overemphasis on making things more dramatic, or increasing the "coolness" factor of things, and other aspects of the show suffered because of it.

Hmm, didn't quite think of that before. Some of these things I'm okay with, while some are just distracting or pointless. I think it is safe to say these Seasons were hit or miss. As I said my biggest issue would be the re-hashing and not quite enough interesting experiments like First Day of Summer. At least nothing was too bad though.

[RockinRobbie]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I'm just about to finish series 2 (yea, it's taken me a long time) and I'm feeling anxious to go for 3+4 from what I have heard. I want to say I have seen every episode but....I just hope if they aren't good they don't spoil my enjoyment of the show. Having said that I did enjoy the season 4 Ziggy's birthday episode. The song was really catchy has to be one of my faves

[StingX]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I'm feeling anxious to go for 3+4 from what I have heard. I want to say I have seen every episode but....I just hope if they aren't good they don't spoil my enjoyment of the show. Having said that I did enjoy the season 4 Ziggy's birthday episode. The song was really catchy has to be one of my faves

They're fine and they won't cause you dislike what you already like, so I encourage you to do so. Also, don't forget about LazyTown Extra!

[RockinRobbie]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

Of course not Stingy! :icon_lol:

[Shakeitpiggy]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I honestly find many of the season 3 and 4 episodes way more enjoyable than the earlier ones.
Especially season 4. I can't even decide which of those are my favorites, because they are all so incredibly great.
I really enjoy Chloe as well and I absolutely can't understand the big negativity towards her. But worst of all; y'all think season 3/4 songs aren't as good?
Jesus. I seriously think compared to season 3/4 songs, season 1/2 songs are really lame. Like I couldn't listen to a season 1/2 song
for 2 days without getting sick of it, while season 3/4 songs get me hooked for months without losing their grace. That's a BIG point where they improved in my opinion.

Little things bothering me are the instruction parts in s3 songs, Trixie's puppeteer/voice change and the weird mask Stephanie puts on from time to time. But like, that's really it.

(I grew up with seasons 1 and 2 as well)

In terms of overall episode, definitely prefer S1 and S2. There was definitely more thought put into them. Still some enjoyable episodes and moments in 3 and 4 though (first day of summer takes the cake out of all 4 seasons). Song wise though, the best songs are quite evenly spread throughout the entire 4 seasons (My top 3 are The world goes round and round, Man on a Mission and We are number one). I find a lot of season 1 (Stephanie only) songs to be too Euro-pop for me (except I do love Always a way based on lyrics alone, and Galaxy because that one just works for some reason).

[xXx_LI_xXx]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I kind of liked Little Pink Riding Hood, where Robbie stole Sportacus' spare outfit and wore it. It's basically Sportafake 2.0. I don't think I really dislike the series though...

[RecipeForStephanie]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I agree to a post beforehand. It's the Stephanie recast that really triggered the full Season 3+4 rant. All because she's not Julianna. I'm still telling people in comments sections, grow up. Change needs to happen, Sheldon. And mostly it's for the better. Seasons 3 and Four had some really great songs in there and really underrated episodes too. No one gave it a real chance and decided they didn't like it in advance, which is going REALLY low.

[StingX]

Re: A general dislike for season 3 and 4?

I agree to a post beforehand. It's the Stephanie recast that really triggered the full Season 3+4 rant. All because she's not Julianna. I'm still telling people in comments sections, grow up. Change needs to happen, Sheldon. And mostly it's for the better. Seasons 3 and Four had some really great songs in there and really underrated episodes too. No one gave it a real chance and decided they didn't like it in advance, which is going REALLY low.

I agree that there are underrated episodes, good songs, and that people who dismiss it without giving it a chance are not being fair. But there are valid reasons to consider seasons 3 and 4 worse than the others, and it's not as simple as an immature dismissal of "Chloe is not Julianna." It's important to not get too caught up in fanboy/girlism and be blind to flaws.