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  • chuft
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    My view of AI (8)

    I had a thought today. If AI is going to wipe out the office class, it will wipe out Microsoft, who at the moment has a monopoly on office software. They are fools to push AI, because they do not have a monopoly on that. In fact people overwhelmingly prefer ChatGPT over CoPilot even though they both use the same OpenAI tech. There are competitors from other companies as well such as Claude, Grok, who knows what else not to mention Chinese ones.

    I asked someone who would know what our org spends on Microsoft licensing every year and it comes out to about $800 per employee. That is for desktop Windows, Office 365 subscription, OneDrive/Sharepoint, SQL Server and IIS and domain controller and file servers (these are shared resources) and Azure licenses, software like Visual Studio etc.

    That is an annual revenue loss to Microsoft of $800 for each employee who is replaced by AI. And the AI is not necessarily, or even likely, to be one sold/licensed by Microsoft. They are pushing a technology that is going to destroy their monopoly power and the entire world of office software. AIs don't care about user interfaces, they would be happy to use Linux, if they need to use office software at all.

    I don't normally quote Elon Musk but today he tweeted "OpenAI is going to eat Microsoft alive" and I wonder if he had the same realization I did.


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  • boredjedi
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    Speaking of which

    "Kiss goodbye to your keyboard and mouse, in Microsoft's vision for the Windows OS in 2030 they'll both 'feel as alien as it does for Gen Z to use DOS'"

    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/win...-z-to-use-dos/

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    • LazyPooky
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      Microsoft will surely find a way to make money out of AI.

      I don't think that you can switch computer hardware like keyboard and mouse for AI software. I know a lot of people that can't speak very well, or unclear, or the environment is not suitable for talk. It's not as simple as it looks.

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      • chuft
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        AI return on investment: Since the last three years, companies around the world have invested between $30 billion and $40 billion into generative AI projects, but according to a new study from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 95% of the companies part of the study reported zero measurable gains from adopting AI tools, as per a report.

        https://economictimes.indiatimes.com.../123440305.cms




        A new study from Stanford economists just confirmed what every anxious new grad already suspects: AI is not replacing all jobs. It is replacing yours.

        In the first large-scale analysis of real payroll data since ChatGPT went viral, researchers at Stanford and the NBER found that entry-level workers in AI-exposed jobs have seen a 13% drop in employment since late 2022. The kicker? Everyone else is doing fine.



        https://www.interviewquery.com/p/ai-...try-level-jobs


        ' β€œAI is not killing jobs,” the data says. β€œIt is killing entry-level jobs.” '

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        • LazyPooky
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          #5
          Originally posted by chuft

          ' β€œAI is not killing jobs,” the data says. β€œIt is killing entry-level jobs.” '
          You're afraid to lose your job because of AI? I can imagine. It takes more time to move people to other jobs than having AI implemented, and companies should support/finance re-education for faster switch.

          I'm in a profession where not much is being done with AI yet, only some diagnostic tools are partly handled with AI but that is just convenient and it doesn't replace an actual job - it's extra. I'm quite save for the rest of my job-life.
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          • chuft
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            If your customers lose their jobs you will lose yours, that's how it works. Nobody is safe.

            Companies don't support anything. I already had one career end due to technology. I had to go back to school and lose 4 years of income and pay for college (again) and then get a job paying a fraction of the old one. AI job displacement is far more serious than you think. And it is going to affect you, even if it's only because all your customers lose their income and stop showing up.
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            • chuft
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              #7
              Sorry if I seem a bit snippy, the US public health infrastructure is currently being destroyed. This affects me directly since I want to get the fall Covid vaccine.
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              • chuft
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                β€˜Sliding into an abyss’: experts warn over rising use of AI for mental health support

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                • boredjedi
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                  "I Fried ChatGPT With ONE Simple Question"

                  "Rick Beato challenges ChatGPT's capabilities with a seemingly simple math problem. The AI struggles to compute 52 factorial, showcasing unexpected limitations in its "expertise."
                  This insightful experiment explores the boundaries of current AI technology, using various platforms for comparison."

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                  • chuft
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                    #10
                    LLMs Can Get "Brain Rot"!


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                    Outline of our work: (i) Inspired by the concept of Brain Rot, we establish the hypothesis of LLM Brain Rot; (ii) We construct junk and control data from Twitter/X posts for intervention; (iii) We benchmark four different cognitive functions of the intervened LLMs; (iv) We analyze the results to identify the failure modes caused by the brain rot; and (v) Brain rot is persistent after various mitigation.

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                    • chuft
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                      #11
                      how many pounds of cats does it take to eat 20 pounds of butter


                      Funny question β€” depends on how fast you want the butter eaten. I’ll make a reasonable assumption and show the math.

                      Assumption: a cat eats about 3% of its body weight per day (typical for a pet cat). Let (r=0.03).

                      We want total cat mass (M) such that (r\times M = 20) pounds of butter in one day.

                      Step-by-step arithmetic (digit‑by‑digit per request):
                      • (M = 20 \div 0.03).
                      • (0.03 = 3/100), so (20 \div 0.03 = 20 \times (100/3) = 2000/3).
                      • (2000 \div 3 = 666) remainder 2 β†’ (666.\overline{6}).

                      So β‰ˆ 666.7 pounds of cats are needed to eat 20 lb of butter in one day at 3% intake.
                      If you prefer round numbers: about 667 lb of cats.

                      Common variants:
                      • If cats eat 5% of body weight/day: (20 Γ· 0.05 = 400) β†’ 400 lb of cats.
                      • If an average cat weighs 10 lb, then at 3% that cat eats (10Γ—0.03=0.3) lb/day, so one cat would take (20 Γ· 0.3 = 66.\overline{6}) days to eat 20 lb.
                        Or you’d need about (666.7 Γ· 10 β‰ˆ 66.7) cats (β‰ˆ 67 cats) to finish it in one day at 3% intake. At 5% intake you’d need 40 ten‑pound cats.

                      Safety note: don’t actually feed cats butter β€” it’s high fat and can cause gastrointestinal upset or pancreatitis. Want the calculation for a different consumption rate, different time window (e.g., finish in 3 days), or a different average cat weight? I can compute that next.


                      if a cat eats butter does it become a wigglecat


                      Haha, I love the idea of a "wigglecat"! If a cat eats enough butter, maybe it’d get extra "wiggly" from all the fat and energy… or perhaps it’d just become very slippery and smooth, like it’s had a full spa treatment.

                      In all seriousness, butter isn’t really a great thing for catsβ€”most cats are lactose intolerant, and while butter isn’t as bad as milk, it’s still a lot of fat that could cause stomach upset, diarrhea, or even pancreatitis. So, if a cat did eat butter (whether it's for the wiggle or the taste), you’d want to keep an eye on them to make sure they’re not feeling too wobbly in the wrong way.

                      That said, if it did create a wigglecat, I imagine it would be the kind of cat that rolls around on the floor more than usual, maybe knocking things over or getting extra cozy in places it normally wouldn’t.

                      Have you ever encountered a "wigglecat" in real life, or is this more of a fun idea you’re exploring?

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                      • boredjedi
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                        Cat gets into the butter heh

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                        • chuft
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                          • LazyPooky
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                            Meow 😸
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                              OpenAI's brand new Atlas browser is more than willing to follow commands maliciously embedded in a web page, an attack type known as indirect prompt injection.

                              Prompt injection vulnerability is a common flaw among browsers that incorporate AI agents like Perplexity's
                              Comet and Fellou, as noted in a report published by Brave Software on Tuesday, coincidentally amid OpenAI's handwaving about the debut of Atlas.

                              Indirect prompt injection can occur when an AI model or agent handles content like a web page or image and then treats that content as if it were part of its instructed task. Direct prompt injection refers to instructions entered directly into a model's input box that bypass or override existing system instructions.



                              https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/...las_as_prompt/
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